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The Pac-12 Thread....May 27, 2012 7:10 pm
TJ12, sure it does. In theory. Let me pose this question to you, if it was USC and Oregon in the exactly identical situation as Bama ans LSU were last season, is there any way that we'd have seen an Oregon-USC NCG? Under last seasons rules (and this seasons) probably not. However, if USC and Oregon are both ranked in the top 4 in the country and the playoff is the 4 highest ranked teams, then yes they would. I want to see the National Champion determined among the best teams. Under a conference champs only scenario, we could see this: #1 LSU (conference champ) #2 Oklahoma (conference champ) #3 Alabama (not conference champ) #4 USC (conference champ) #5 Texas (not conference champ) #6 Ohio St. (conference champ) You take the 4 conference champs out and whoever wins the NCG gets to hear about how it wasn't the 4 "best" teams. It seem that the conference champs only requirement would serve to exclude a team that may be better than one or more of the teams in the playoff. |
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The Pac-12 Thread....May 27, 2012 7:32 pm
Tj12, neither is perfect. Yet, the conference champ has won his conference. I guess it's which you hold in higher regard. The conference championship or the polls.
Take last season and assume we didn't have a bowl ban in place. If we beat Oregon in the Pac championship, we end up seventh in the AP poll without the championship game. Play that and we would have moved up to maybe 5th, two in-conference losses stops a higher slot. Yet, by the end of the season, we were playing in the same level as anyone. USC doesn't get in. Conference championship as the basis and we do. That's why eight allows a bit of both,IMO. Besides, If the SEC wants it, there must be something wrong with it that we've missed.LOL |
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The Pac-12 Thread....May 27, 2012 7:42 pm
As you know, I prefer an 8 team format. Whatever the case, though, I just want the best teams. I don't think that conference champs only assures that. A poll doesn't either, but I think that a poll done correctly does a better job.
In the scenario that presented, it would jave been based on the body of owrk through the season and I would have been fine with USC being out (shouldn't have lost to ASU). That possibility maintains the relevance of the regular season that so many anti-playoff folks worry about. |
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The Pac-12 Thread....May 27, 2012 10:19 pm
It has only been dubbed the champions bowl by some writers there is no official name as of yet.
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The Pac-12 Thread....May 27, 2012 10:22 pm
The way I see it Oregon is the favorite and Stanford and Washington are the major challengers in the North. It is unlikely any of them even in an off season finish last in the division.
Cal is projected to be just good enough to be in the middle. Washington State is expected to climb to a bowl under leach. Im not saying Oregon State will be 0-12 but last in the division looks likely. Nichols is a DIAA or FCS school. but that doesnt matter because well dont forget Sac state. |
