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December 28, 2012 8:56 am

Inexcusable.  Outrageous.  Yet more evidence that refs get marching orders.
that's why the league suspended him?   they gave refs marching orders not to throw wade out of games?  im not sure i follow this logic.. im not sure it is logic.


but if the refs do have marching orders..should we vacate the 6 Chicago titles in the 90s?     

  
Flauge
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December 28, 2012 9:04 am

This is what it has come to for Lakers fans?

They care more about Kobe 30 point streak and him leading Lebron in All Star Voting than they do about actually winning games?
bksballer89
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December 28, 2012 9:06 am

You guys are retarded.

If Wade was thrown out of the game he wouldn't have been suspended for tonight. The league tends not to suspend players who are given a flagrant 2 in the game.

So you would rather Wade just miss the final 8 min or miss the full 48 tonight?

Look at Howard for example. He had a dirty foul on Faried but since he was given a flagrant 2 he was not suspended but I can guarantee if he was not given a flagrant 2, he would be suspended.

BTW Howard is 2 flagrant fouls away from being suspended
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December 28, 2012 9:50 am

Geez turnip, I little defensive there about your boy getting edged out by Kobe in the latest All-Star voting count? I think so! Meanwhile, Simple Jack seems to have totally lost it - making less and less sense every day...which I didn't think was possible - defending Wade for kicking a guy in the balls and breaking another guy's nose - nice! And punchline, I have no doubt that the Lakers will make the playoffs and do some real damage this postseason, but I do think it's funny that you're counting games in December, same with you turnip - once a Heat fan, always a Heat fan...you two clowns are priceless and truly the gift that keeps on giving around here!
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December 28, 2012 10:00 am

flauge, I was reacting to the refs not whistling Wade for anything.  I didn't know that the league later properly suspended Wade.  mea culpa.
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December 28, 2012 10:12 am

flauge, I was reacting to the refs not whistling Wade for anything.  I didn't know that the league later properly suspended Wade.
Yeah, it was a little odd that this transgression happened right in front of an official, and yet no reaction in the moment.  As for the one game suspension, that too is a little odd - especially given Wade's history.

Interesting blog on the subject on nba.com today...(w/ video)

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/
12/28/wade-penalty-about-more-than-
one-game/

The NBA kicked Dwyane Wade where it hurts, too, suspending the Heat guard for one game for “flailing his leg and making contact with the groin” of Ramon Sessions of the Bobcats on Wednesday in Charlotte.

The one game? Eh. Wade must sit out when Miami (20-6) plays Friday at Detroit (9-22). At 34, 38 and 37 minutes the last three games, the latter two in a back-to-back, the point can be made that the rest will do him good.

Except that this has become about more than the one game. Wade “getting his Rockettes on” against Sessions[ ]was so over the line and has become part of such a growing list of regrettable moments that his reputation is suffering.

Whether Wade is wounded by comments along the lines of Boston’s Rajon Rondo calling him out for “dirty plays” is not known. But Wade should care. A suspension for appearing to purposely kick an opponent in the groin for no reason other than Sessions taking a foul opens the kind of file with the NBA no one should want.

The second-best player on a team with aspirations for a title repeat will be judged from now on through a different, harsher prism. There is a precedent. Wade, for all the good he has done in a career that will lead to the Hall of Fame, also has a history that will work against him if future incidents come up.

As Brian Windhorst chronicled on ESPN.com before the suspension had been announced:

  • During a game in Boston in the 2011 regular season, Wade was hit with a flagrant foul for shoving Kevin Garnett after Garnett had leveled Mike Miller with a screen.
  • In the 2011 playoffs, Wade got wrapped up with Rondo while going for a loose ball. After Rondo elbowed Wade, he appeared to stick his leg out and sweep Rondo to the court. It resulted in Rondo dislocating his elbow. At the time, Wade said it was inadvertent.
  • Wade broke Kobe Bryant’s nose, raking him from behind during an unusual physical play during the 2012 All-Star Game. Bryant had fouled Wade twice previously in the game.
  • During a regular-season game last April in Miami, Wade threw a forearm at Chicago Bulls guard Rip Hamilton after Hamilton bumped him trying to create space on the perimeter. Wade was called for a flagrant foul.
  • During the first round of the playoffs last season, Wade threw the shoe of New York Knicks guard Mike Bibby off the court after Bibby lost it getting a rebound.
  • During the second round of the playoffs, Wade blindsided Indiana Pacers guard Darren Collison on a fast break. Wade, who seemed to be reacting to not getting a shooting foul moments earlier, was assessed a flagrant foul.

Many could fade into the background if they were single happenings. Some, like shoving Garnett in defense of a teammate or tossing Bibby’s shoe in a strange attempt to gain a competitive advantage, can even be seen as exactly the chippy attitude a team should want from a star. In totality, though, that is a very long list.

Commissioner David Stern has made it clear that past incidents matter when the time comes to decide on disciplines, and Wade has several. Whether or not Wade cares about his image around the league, it is why he should absolutely be concerned with the reputation in the biggest offices at NBA HQ.


jefe101
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December 28, 2012 10:19 am

I'm sorry but Wade should've gotten 2-3 games for that.
koldazice
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December 28, 2012 10:27 am

that list is funny..   throwing a shoe?  shoving garnett for levling a teammate?  these plays are counted against him?   REALLY?   sounds like someone is reaching a little bit here.  


rondo's elbow got dislocated as the two players got tangled and fell to the floor... not much wade could do about that.  rondo elbows wade and knocks him off balance, they get tangled and fall.. rondo, how initiated the contact with his elbow ends up hurt.   and this author wants to call wade dirty because of it?   some might call it karma.   it's basketball injuries happen sometimes when players collide.   wade tries to wrap kobe, and breaks his nose.  no intent..just wrapping a player to prevent a dunk.


kicking sessions in the groin was dirty.  not defending it.   but this is the man's 10th season in the league.   and one play i would classify as suspension worthy.     1 suspension for 1 game in 10 years is not even close to dirty.

the author complaining about him being suspended for the detroit game.   what does he want?   the league to suspend him but not right now...how about we wait till april 2nd against the Knicks?
Flauge
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December 28, 2012 10:28 am

Wade is in my top 5 least liked players in the NBA, but I think 1 game seems correct here.  I think there could be a slim case that Wade was falling back and kicked his leg up to regain his balance, although I think that case would be a stretch.  I think Wade's past, in fact, did come into play and the league gave him a 1 game suspension because of it.  I think if it were another player that didn't have a past, there possibly wouldn't have been a suspension... maybe just a fine.
realdeal5
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December 28, 2012 10:28 am


  
    I'm sorry but Wade should've gotten 2-3 games for that.
that's fine..even understandable.   but if a kick to the groin is 3 games, what is an elbow to the back of the head causing brain injury to a player worth?


  
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December 28, 2012 10:36 am

Flauge:  I think what has to be taken into account, is that over the past couple of years watching many of the Heat games I have noticed that Wade seemingly often retaliates after a play in which Wade doesn't get a foul call, or a player produces a play that "embarasses" Wade somehow.  Now when I say "often", it's a relative term meaning more than most people in the league, not to mean that he doesn it every night or every other night.  Lot's of these retaliations are simply hard fouls that don't get to the league office, or Wade simply tries to embarass the defender on the offensive end of the court. 

My point in all of this is that I have come to the conclusion that Wade has a tendancy to react in a way that could very well explain the high kick to the groin on Sessions.  Maybe the league has also noticed this, and decided that a 1 game suspension was necessary. 
realdeal5
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December 28, 2012 10:38 am

"Geez turnip, I little defensive there about your boy getting edged out by Kobe in the latest All-Star voting count?"



Jefe, if I had my way, none of them would even play in a meaningless exhibition game. 3-4 days rest is more important if you are trying to win a championship vs a scoring title.

Who knows, your nose might even get broke in a game like that.


Anyway, we all know Kobe has more fans overseas, so that would explaing his 4000 vote lead.    


" , but I do think it's funny that you're counting games in December, same with you turnip -     "


Jefe , the standings count. IMO, HC is very important over the course of the playoffs.

Remind me again of how many teams have ever won a championship from the 5 seed or lower.'



Lastly, if only games mean something late in the season and in the playoffs,  then doesn't that contradict all of your (nonsense) aterisk talk from last year?

Everyone controlled there own destiny when the playoffs started, correct?          
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December 28, 2012 10:44 am

Who sustained "brain injury"??? And flauge, for the record, the guy who compiled that list is none other than the Heat Index' very own Brian Winderhorst.
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December 28, 2012 10:46 am


     Flauge:  I think what has to be taken into account, is that over the past couple of years watching many of the Heat games I have noticed that Wade seemingly often retaliates after a play in which Wade doesn't get a foul call, or a player produces a play that "embarasses" Wade somehow
we both agree here.  i think the one game suspension is what wade should have gotten.   you dont like wade, he is my favorite player.   but yes the past couple years wade has become more of a diva.  im not going to argue this.  when he was young, he never complained to refs or retaliated against hard shots.   he does both those things now.   i wont argue he doesnt, anyone who watches the guy knows he does.


where we disagree is if wade is a dirty player.   i dont think he is.   i think this play on sessions was dirty.   but i dont believe anything else he has done in his career was overly dirty.   someone correct me if im wrong here, but this wade's first career suspension..  suspended for 1 game in 10 years is no where close to dirty.

   
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December 28, 2012 10:47 am

Turnip, I didn't say these games don't mean anything, I just said I'm reserving judgement amount the Lakers cohesion as a team until the ASB, and that I don't care much about seedings where the Lakers are concerned entering these playoffs.
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December 28, 2012 10:51 am


     Who sustained "brain injury"??? 
James Harden sustained a concussion from MWP elbow to the head.   Concussions are brain injuries.  he got 7 games.   Kold thinks wade should have gotten 3 for a kick to the groin.. and a falling backwards kick..   not a good wind up kick.   wade didnt even get his full money's worth. 



     And flauge, for the record, the guy who compiled that list is none other than the Heat Index' very own Brian Winderhorst.
i dont care if Micky Arison complied the list.   Including throwing a show and shoving Garnett for leveling a teammate in the list is ridiculous.  

  
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December 28, 2012 10:54 am

where we disagree is if wade is a dirty player.   i dont think he is.   i think this play on sessions was dirty.   but i dont believe anything else he has done in his career was overly dirty.   someone correct me if im wrong here, but this wade's first career suspension..  suspended for 1 game in 10 years is no where close to dirty.
I think we actually agree here.  I don't think he has been an overly dirty player.  He's just been getting a little "cheap-shot-ty"  over the past couple of seasons.  The reason I don't like him that much is not because I think he is a dirty player, because I don't.  I actually remember being a Dwayne Wade fan over his first 3-5 seasons.  Then something happened.

 
realdeal5
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December 28, 2012 10:58 am

You think Kobe is trying to win a scoring title versus a championship? Houston won a title without having HCA in any round. It's the most difficult road but not impossible. Higher seeded teams do lose.
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December 28, 2012 11:20 am

You think Kobe is trying to win a scoring title versus a championship? Houston won a title without having HCA in any round. It's the most difficult road but not impossible. Higher seeded teams do lose.




i can see the Lakers beating maybe SA or Memphis without HC but not more athletic OKC and the Clippers under any circumstances
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December 28, 2012 11:33 am

i am going to be honest... i dont see the Clippers having homecourt against the Lakers no matter the seeding.
Flauge
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