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On the final day, Braun got my vote

Posted on: November 22, 2011 2:04 pm
Edited on: November 22, 2011 3:40 pm
As I wrote on the final Sunday of the regular season, the National League MVP race was so close that I wouldn't decide until the season was over.

When it was, I picked Ryan Braun over Matt Kemp.

So did the majority of the voters, which is why Braun is this year's NL MVP.

Kemp had an outstanding season. So did Braun.

Braun had a huge impact on the pennant race. Kemp, basically through no fault of his own, did not.

The MVP is an individual award, but baseball is a team game. Everything you do is affected by your teammates.

And in my mind, it's hard (but not impossible) to be the MVP when your teammates aren't good enough to help you contend for a championship.

Would my vote have been different had Kemp won the Triple Crown, as he had a chance to do in the final weeks of the season?

It's possible it would have been. You'll never know, because I'll never know. I never had to make that decision.

I had to decide based on what did happen, and what happened was that Braun's great season helped his team to a championship, while Kemp's great season kept his team from losing more games than it won.

My ballot:

1. Braun.

2. Kemp.

3. Prince Fielder. For the first part of the season, he was even better than Braun. For the whole year, Braun got the edge.

4. Albert Pujols. He started slow (for him), and then he was hurt. But he came back strong, and so did his team.

5. Lance Berkman. Without him, the Cardinals would have been buried early.

6. Roy Halladay. The Phillies were the dominant team in the regular season, and their starting pitching was the reason. The problem was that it was hard to separate out one starter.

7. Justin Upton. Great year, great story, but his home-road split (1.033 OPS at home, .767 on road) held him down.

8. Cliff Lee. Based on June (5-0, 0.21) and August (5-0, 0.45), he was the MVP. For the full season, he just makes the ballot.

9. Joey Votto. Didn't repeat his 2010 season, so he won't repeat as MVP.

10. Carlos Ruiz. His numbers are nowhere near MVP-worthy. I gave him a 10th-place vote because of the impact he has on the Phillies pitching, which was so good that if I could have voted for the rotation as a whole, they would have been the MVP.


Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2011 1:14 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

Kitch- You obviously stuggle wih English, text, and context. The post doesn't suggest anyone voted for or against for any particular reason. It only states that one never knows why one might vote  for one player over another or against a player. The 1947 vote was just an indication that bias exists for some BBWAA participants. It would be no different that at least one writer who said he would never vote for Leo Durocher for the HOF while he was alive. The race and ethnicticity thing probably does not exist, but if taken to extreme, it could exist. It definitely existed in he past. So I am sorry that you wee offended. But you should think of the point made by some previous messagers and the response in that framework. I suspect you are like many people who see something and immedately jump to a conclusion while really having no idea of what the writer was actually saying.

Since: Aug 14, 2007
Posted on: November 23, 2011 12:55 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

Good post. I was merely pointing out that being on a winning team was the major reason Braun won the award this year. Baseball is interesting in that it is a team game but largely individual as well. As an individual, Kemp was the best player in the NL. Braun it seems was the best palyer on a NL playoff team. I can accept that.

When Kirk Gison won the award in '88 his #'s were not that great. He won b/c he put the Dodgers on his back, see Tebow, Tim, and carried them to the playoffs. So, I get it. If that's what Braun did, great.

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 9:54 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

Congratulations, Troy Forever, you single-handedly set internet message boards back 10 years with your inane, ramble of a post. Racism/anti-semitism affecting MVP voting, a 1947 MVP vote, horsepuckey and the AL MVP vote were all mentioned in your rant. So I must say, if your goal was to cram as much mind-numbing bullshit as humanly possible into one post, you succeeded. The only person dumber than you on this thread is me for actually reading the whole thing.

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 9:11 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

I will make this short and sweet. The year is 1947 Ted Williams won the triple crown again and he lost the MVP to Dimaggio because one Boston Globe writer hated Williams and left him totally off the ballot. Not even a 10th place vote and Wiliiams lost by one point. If there was any justice, they would take away his vote for that year and recalculate. I heard several guys on MLB say that had Kemp won the triple crown he would have won the MVP. Maybe. Williams won it twice and didn't when MVP.  Maybe Kemp wins but it is a racist thing.  Wait, maybe Braun lost votes to anti-semitism. Nah, maybe they used the pennant race factor, even though you really shouldn't. Well I was going to make it short and sweet but things keep popping into my head. Since when in a pennant race is the only pressure on the batter? Look at Braun's walk count. Kemp's isn't high but Braun's is ridiculously low for that good a hitter. Maybe the Prince factor had something to do with that. It looks as if either player had to make a living against San Diego, they both might be in the minors. The uneven schedule is bound to favor one hitter over another regardless of ballpark. I have no problem with the selection of Braun. Verlander, that was horsepuckey. I can go for a pitcher when batters basically didn't show up. But that wasn't the case this year. I am a Red Sox fan. Ellsbury was great. But I would have had to vote for Granderson. Maybe not a great average. But run production was awesome from mostly the two slot.

Since: Mar 29, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:48 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

contributes what ........ and with out him do they win the central..... number 1 hes a whinny bit....... and if he dosent get his way he whines ask the 3 past mangers and yes they win the central but who won the series. i m not a cards fan but they spanked them pretty hard. BREWERS ARE THE SAME PACKAGE DIFFRENT WRAPPER SORRY BERNIE NO SLIDIN IN THGE SERIES.

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:41 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

Most of the ppl I've seen on here complaining are Dodger fans. Suck it up you babies. Braun played in a better division and performed very well in MEANINGFUL GAMES all the way to the end. Be happy Kershaw won the Cy Young and give credit where it's due: to Braun.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:58 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

How in the world do you have 2 pitchers who had down years and on the best team in the NL regular season in your top choices for MVP when you have Matt Kemp second and Clayton Kershaw was the best NL Pitcher this year?

If Halladay can finish 6th, then Kershaw should be 4th or maybe even 3rd, because his season was significantly better than Halladay in every circumstance.

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:35 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

peteg, you forgot a couple of your stats. Try Slugging Percentage, Braun led the league. Try OPS, Braun again led the league. Kemp had a great year. But you also have to remember that he was just ahead of Braun by what 7 HR's and 14 rbi's. That's not exactly burying someone with stats.
And you say that the Brewers still win the central without Braun? What are you smoking? They didn't clinch until the end of September, with Braun getting clutch hit after clutch hit. Not like Kemp, playing before 5,000 people most away games. There was no pressure on Kemp because the Dodgers stunk. From the start of the season to the end, they were NEVER in it. So hitting with NO PRESSURE is more important that hitting with PRESSURE ON EVERY AT BAT? This is what I like about guys who argue nothing but stats. Peteg, Go back to fantasy baseball, and let the adults decide who the MVP is.........oh, that's right, THEY DID! Ryan Braun!

Since: May 28, 2011
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:17 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

You forgot doubles, triples, Fielding percentage, Stolen base percentage.

Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: November 22, 2011 7:11 pm

On the final day, Braun got my vote

Just the fact that this idiot knobler voted Braun for MVP should nullify the voting and remove knoblers voting privileges forever. If I were Braun I give it back just knowing knobler voted for me.

You take kemp out of the dodgers line-up they lose 105 games. You take braun out of the brewers line-up they still win their division.

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