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Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

Posted on: November 2, 2011 9:07 pm

The Gerrit Cole hype will never match the Stephen Strasburg hype.

Unless . . .

Well, the word out of the Arizona Fall League is that Cole, the top pick in the June draft, is everything the Pirates could have hoped for. The buzz is that Cole has . . .

"As live a fastball as I've ever seen, and I'm going back to Nolan Ryan," one veteran scout (who doesn't work for the Pirates) said after returning from Arizona. "The first time I saw him, he was sitting at 100, 101 [mph]. He had a better fastball than Strasburg.

"They knew it was coming, and they still couldn't start fast enough to crank it up. He could have struck out big-league hitters with his fastball that day."

Cole's numbers in Arizona are good, but not stunning. In four games, he has pitched 12 innings, allowing four earned runs on eight hits, with three walks and 12 strikeouts.

The scout said that Cole's secondary pitches need work, and that even the velocity on his fastball could be inconsistent. The game after he pitched at 100-101 mph, Cole was throwing his fastball at 95 mph.

"But the life on his fastball was so impressive," the scout said.

The same scout also came away impressed with Danny Hultzen, the Mariners prospect who was taken just behind Cole in the June draft.

As for Bryce Harper, the first pick overall in 2010, the scout said the Nationals shouldn't be counting on him as a major-league difference-maker in 2012.

"He's not that bat they're missing, not yet," the scout said. "He's about a year away. He reminds me of a young J.D. Drew, but he loves to play."


Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: November 5, 2011 1:11 am

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

Billy Koch was a closer, alot of closers can hit 100, gerrit cole can hit 100 in the 7th inning and his fastball tails off over the plate, he will be a dangerous pitcher

Since: May 7, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 1:56 pm

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

So Harper reminds someone of a young J.D. Drew... now there's a kiss of death.

Since: Jan 4, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:12 am

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

I agree 100% with command (I prefer this term over "control").  I believe everyone is so enamored with power arms, that command is actually underappreciated (and thus affects prospect ratings as such).  Big-time prospects will tend to be power arms, with "reasonable command", but a pitcher that throws 92 with exceptional command won't be talked about as much.

That said, 100 mph arms (and 100mph arms that can carry that speed into the 7th-8th innings) don't grow on trees.  The fact that he is exhibiting big-time movement now is a far cry from many of the reports of his senior year at UCLA -- supposedly a flaw in his delivery had him dropping down, and as such his FB coming to the plate flat (and hittable).

The comment about his secondary pitches is what we need to concentrate on.  He is supposed to have some potential plus-plus secondary offerings (CV + CH).  Hopefully he has shown enough to get his start in Altoona (AA), or at least a few starts in Bradenton (A+) followed by a quick promotion to AA.

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 3:28 am

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

How many times do we hear this about a Top Pick?  Pitching is all about location and change of speed. Ever hear of greg Maddux??  Keep the batters off balance, you don't need 100mph to do that.  Wish him luck but it is a wait and see as usual.

Since: Jul 26, 2011
Posted on: November 3, 2011 12:05 am

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

There have been many that could get up to 100 MPH.  Not many could could sustain it as it ruins the arm if the mechanics are not perfect when doing that.  You cite Strasburg who already has had major issues.  Being a Giant Fan we recently had Rob Nenn who could blaze the ball and I believe his arm gave out.  (If it didn't, where did he disappear to?)  Point is control in the ninties is what these kids need to stick around the game for a while.

Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:23 pm

Let the Gerrit Cole hype begin

Billy Koch used to throw 100 mph too....

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