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Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Posted on: October 26, 2011 6:27 pm
ST. LOUIS -- Will Chris Carpenter start for the Cardinals if the World Series goes to Game 7?

I'm not sure about that, but I do know that Alexi Ogando, Mike Adams and the rest of the strong Rangers bullpen is better rested and more prepared now that a rainout delayed Game 6 by a day.

"That's a huge advantage for us," Adams said Wednesday. "It can only help us. We've pitched a lot, and now [on Thursday], we'll be fully rested.

"Any day of rest, we'll take it."

And more rest for the talented but heavily worked Rangers pen makes the rainout a slight advantage for Texas, no matter whether it puts Carpenter in play for Game 7 or not.

The Rangers will also have starters Derek Holland and C.J. Wilson available out of the bullpen for Thursday's rescheduled Game 6, as well as for a Game 7, if needed, on Friday. Manager Ron Washington repeated Wednesday, for the third straight day, that Matt Harrison will remain his Game 7 starter.

Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, for the third straight day, was mum on his Game 7 plans. He said he discussed it with pitching coach Dave Duncan, but that they opted not to make a decision until after Game 6.

"[They'll] want a probable," La Russa said. "Bob Gibson's here, so we'll send Bob."

With the schedule pushed back a day, Carpenter becomes a possibility, but the Cardinals ace would be starting on three days' rest. He has started on short rest just once in his career, in Game 2 of this year's Division Series against the Phillies, and he allowed four runs in three innings.

The recent history of starters used on short rest isn't good.

"I was told by Carp he'd be ready to go," La Russa said.

It's possible that La Russa could stick with Game 3 starter Kyle Lohse as his starter for a Game 7, with Carpenter available at the first sign of trouble. By doing it that way, he could shorten the innings Carpenter would be asked to throw on short rest.

La Russa said Wednesday that he expects Game 4 starter Edwin Jackson to be available in the bullpen for Game 6. As for Carpenter's availability out of the bullpen Thursday, La Russa hedged.

"No chance," he said, before pausing and then adding, "little chance."

La Russa said that in his opinion, the rainout won't be a factor in who wins the World Series.

"I don't think it adds anything to our competitive chances, or theirs," he said.

If the Cardinals win Game 6, Washington will no doubt face another round of questions on starting Holland, who was brilliant in the Rangers' 4-0 Game 4 win. Don't expect Washington to make a change, though.

"Harrison is my seventh game pitcher," he said emphatically. "I am not changing the things we've done all year. That's why we're here."

Washington knows that as good as Holland looked on Sunday night, the 25-year-old left-hander's season was marked by inconsistency. Remember, this is a guy who threw a four-hit shutout on July 30 in Toronto, then followed it up five days later by getting knocked out in the second inning against the Indians.

Besides, Washington believes that the best thing a manager can do is to show his players a consistent front, and not be seen to be uncertain or panicky. He chose Harrison before the World Series began to start Games 3 and 7, and he won't change because Holland outpitched Harrison the first time around.

The Rangers players don't expect him to.

"Harry's been a massive part of our team," Michael Young said Wednesday. "He's earned it. But that's getting ahead of ourselves."

Up three games to two in the Series, the Rangers would obviously prefer that there isn't a Game 7.

They also would have preferred that Game 6 wasn't rained out. But if there's any advantage that comes from the rainout, I'm saying it goes to Texas -- Carpenter or no Carpenter.


Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:58 pm

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers


The real star of game 6 was whoever convinced MLB to cancel Kyle Loshe's start on the threat of rain the previous day.

Ogando didn't look like the day off helped him any...or any of the other gloveless, armless, would be defenders and impersonators of pitchers in game 6 for that matter.  

It wasn't the "greatest game ever" in the World Series... the question really was which team was most intent on giving the game away. The fat pitch and horrible read on Freese's triple finally did Texas in, probably more because the Cardinals couldn't have another half inning to give the lead back again than anything else.

Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:52 am

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Knobler:  Rainout edge to Rangers

Me:  Texass Rangers crap in their pants

Since: Sep 29, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 3:32 pm

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Pitching arguements aside....yes Carp could go and Derek Holland will have had 4 days should Matt Harrison falter....the extra off hopefully benefited Josh Hamilton the most.  Josh has been struggling through a groin strain for some time now.  The extra day won't magically heal it...but I hope it hurts a little less and he's able to turn on the ball much better.  The Rangers have been missing his power all series...if Josh can even get to 90%, then I'd say advantage Rangers...

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 2:12 pm

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Wrong, in such circumstances advantage (if any) ALWAYS goes away from the team that just won, becuase it cools them off and let's the other team a chance to forget what just happened.  Read the artcile to see what Knobler's reasoning is, and its ... Texas' bullpen gets more rest.  Well, I don't think the Cards' pen pitched yesterday either.  The only real adavantage he points out belongs to the Cards, the possibility that Carpernter is now available.  Yet, he doesn't address it.  Just a dumb column. (I'm not a Cards fan.)

Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:12 pm

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

after the crap carpenter pulled after getting napoli out and cursing like crazy at him, it would serve him right to start game 7 and get crushed and have the cards lose. that was as unprofessional an act as I have seen in a long time.

Since: Sep 28, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:00 pm

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

I'm going to agree with Rebel41 here Danny Knobler is a one sided bias in this because he has been against us everytime, he consistently looks at the other teams advantages and fails to acknowledge that the Cardinals have their own advantages such as two fully rested starters for game 6 Garcia and Jackson not to mention a fresh and ready arm in Westbrook.

We, also have home field advantage so no more DH for the Rangers who barely pulled out one game against STL in STL this isn't a cake walk by any means for the Rangers and Knobler I suggest you stop looking at it that way because it's not, any Rangers fan knows that.

How many days did Ogando and the Rangers bulpen have before the Series?

Did it help them almost lose the first three your damn right. They barely got one of the first 3. and not to mention how quiet the rangers bats were in STL. Again the weather will be very cold.

And the better team wins no matter the weather I say the Cardinals have the advantage here!

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:54 am

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

The Rangers did okay against Carpenter in Game 4, so he is NOT supermen.

Since: Nov 15, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:45 am

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Knobler must be a big time Ranger fan and/or Card hater.  The Rangers bullpen already had the travel day to get rested up.  The main thing the rainout did was allow the Cards to use Carpenter in game 7 against a very shaky Harrison(you know, the 1st Ranger to get lit up in game 3)  If the Cards win tonight, the Rangers can forget about game 7.

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:44 am

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:42 am

Rainout edge, if any, goes to the Rangers

I guess it was just tasty enough to get the into the World Series.  Isn't that the point?

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