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Johan Santana's future remains a great unknown

Posted on: March 13, 2011 10:25 am
Edited on: March 13, 2011 12:10 pm
 
PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- The Mets apparently won't be shutting Johan Santana's rehab down immediately, so they were able to deny a Bergen Record report that said they might.

What they can't deny, and what's potentially more troubling to any chance the Mets have of contending this year, is that Santana's future remains a great unknown. They can't say for sure that he'll pitch for them this season, and more than that they can't say for sure how he'll pitch.

"Time will tell," Santana said Sunday morning, when he was asked directly whether he can be the same dominating pitcher he once was.

As The Record said, the history of pitchers who have had surgery similar to Santana's isn't good. Mark Prior and Chien-Ming Wang both had to have torn anterior capsules fixed; neither one has a major-league win post-surgery.

Santana said doctors told him only that "everything was a success" in surgery, and that the recovery would take a while.

"I'm aware," he said. "They told me it's a long process."

Santana isn't all that far along in the process yet. He has graduated from playing catch every other day at 45 feet to playing catch on back-to-back days at 60 feet, but even in the best-case scenario he's more than a month away from throwing off a bullpen mound.

Santana underwent surgery on his left shoulder last September. He made 29 starts last year for the Mets, with a 2.98 ERA, but his strikeouts per nine innings were a career-low 6.5 (down from 10.5 in 2004, when he won the first of his two Cy Young awards).

Santana, who turned 32 on Sunday, insisted that the rehab from surgery is going according to plan.

"We're on the right track," he said. "Hopefully you can clarify that I'm on the right track."

But even Santana admitted that it's impossible to commit to any timetable at this point.

"If we have to take more time, we'll take more time," he said.

Pitching coach Dan Warthen was more emphatic.

"Everything's fine," Warthen said.

Asked if he can say for sure that Santana will pitch for the Mets this year, Warthen said, "Absolutely. The doctors, myself and the rehab people, everybody feels he's going to pitch this year."

But even if he does pitch, what will he look like? Will he look like a pitcher you want to guarantee $77.5 million -- what the Mets still owe him -- over the next three years?

Even Warthen admitted that he can't answer that question yet. No one with the Mets can.

That part, they can't deny.


Category: MLB
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In 2008 Lee was 22-3 in 2008 started 31 games and won the AL Cy and i believe he started the AS game for the AL.. In 2009 combined between Indians and Phillies he started 34 games, in 2010 he had an oblique injury to start the season w Seattle Mariners Nd between they and the Texas Rangers he still had 28 starts. In 2011 he made 32 starts maybe missing 1... Also in 2011 Thats averages over 30 starts a season for the last 4, WTF are you smoking ? ? Over past 2 seasons he pitched more CG's then he ever has, and besides being sent down to the Minors in 2007, and his 1st full season as a starter in 2003 (177 innings pitched in 03) has thrown 200 innings or more in 04, 05, 06, (sent to minors in 2007) 08, 09, 10, 11 and while going deep into the playoffs in 3 consecutive years which saw him go 2 back to back WS and until the Giants in 2010 was as dominant as any Pitcher in MLB history. That is straight up Durability most likely only matched by possibly 10 guys if that in same time span ! Maybe mom should make you leave her basement more often..



Since: Aug 29, 2010
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Johan Santana's future remains a great unknown

Overated ? He won 2 AL CY Youngs w a very low ERA and Whip, he stuff was down right FILTHY, comparing Ziti to YO YO is seriously a top 10 all time moronic statement on CBS sportsline ! Zito was left off a post season roster, he is Jamie Moyer at 35 when Moyer was age 45.. Zito had a good run in Oakland, won an AL CY then committed the Luftansa heist w no weapon or violence w that Giants contract ! He barely makes 5 innings in the NL w no DH and you think he wld do better back in the AL ? He should stick to Fung Shuei and retire asap ! Next i am a Phillies Full season ticket holder since 2004 when CBP opened, LEE finished 3rd in the NL Cy voting, won 17 games w like 8CG w like 6 shut outs, July and August he was practically unhittable, walked hardly anyone and had the teams most k's, he was. A STUD but he shat the bed vs the Cardinals by giving up a 4 run lead ( 1st time he did that all season I believe). Anyhow, my 11 year old son knows a decent pitcher coming fro The AL to NL usually shaves almost a full run off their ERA and K per 9 increase from lack of the DH and seeing a Starting Pitcher usually 2 or 3 times per start, over 35 starts, if you do math and k a SP a Minimum of 1.5 times per start it will add over 50 Punch outs to your ERA. While i have always believed Doc is and will be the Phillies best starter, alot of fans thought Lee was right w him and he almost was except for Doc just goes out and Deals almost every start w maybe 2 or 3 bad starts all year, but Lee went on a historic Run in 2011, basically had 2 x 5 game win streaks and was over 30 innings in each w not allowing a run.. Kershaw was a beast, but ive seen so many young aces do what he did under age of 25 ( Not quite as Dominant and there Are a few exceptions like Felix Hernandez and Tim Lincecum off top of my head ) . Lets see Kid K duplicate or come close to doing as he did in 2011, because he threw a lot of innings and i believe The Tom Verducci rule, but dunno if he increased his ip's by 20%, but Cole Hamels was a victim in 2009 after going deep and winning a WS, Matt Latos in 2011, Phil Hughes and Ubaldo Jiminez all fell victim to the Verducci rule in 2011, off point, but i digress.. Anyway, hindsight here on your post basically makes you look like a total Newb, i hate the Muts more then anything, but saying Yo Yo was overated is simply ill informed, biased or just plain ignorant of how good he was as a Twin and was pretty good w the Muts just not dominantike in Minnesota... Cliff Lee will win 18 games in 2012 but his era will rise to a 2.8, Doc will win another CY w 20 wins and a 2.5 era and to address the guy who asked how it turned to a Lee rant, read the previous pages, i was responding to that. Barry Zito. You must be him or his manager !


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