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Could Washburn be a backup plan for Phils?

Posted on: July 24, 2009 10:08 am
Edited on: July 24, 2009 3:47 pm
Not all the Phillies' attention has been focused on Roy Halladay.

Philadelphia had a scout in Detroit Thursday watching Jarrod Washburn, who allowed just two hits in seven shutout innings against the Tigers. Washburn lowered his ERA to 2.71, actually moving ahead of Halladay on the list of American League leaders. Washburn, who will be a free agent at the end of the year, is 4-1 with a 1.47 ERA in five starts this month, and the Phillies have had a scout watch at least his last two starts.

"He was as good as he's been in four or five years," said another scout who watched Washburn. "He's never used the sinker the way he's using it now."

The Mariners have yet to say they're willing to trade Washburn, but with the Angels heating up in the AL West, Seattle's longshot playoff hopes could be slipping away. Even with two wins in three games in Detroit, the Mariners fell to 5 1/2 games behind the Angels.

The Phillies have long been considered the most likely landing spot for Halladay, and he's obviously a much bigger prize than Washburn. But Philadelphia has continued to explore other options, including Cleveland's Cliff Lee and Erik Bedard, Washburn's Seattle teammate.

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Posted on: July 28, 2009 12:13 am

Could Washburn be a backup plan for Phils?

First:  Jarrod Washburn played on atrocious Mariners teams where their defence ranked last in the league.  Don't forget that they had the worst win-loss record in the AL the past few years.  The pitchers could pitch a one hitter and still lose 1-0.  This year, Seattle improved its outfield defence by a hundred percent and Washburn is pitching the same, but most hits from previous years are now caught for outs.  If Philly's outfield is the worst in the league, then yes, Washburn would struggle.  Listening to many here, I get the impression that the outfielders in Philly rank up near the top in defense so that means he would continue to pitch well. 

The point was also made that he pitches on the road too, so the home park means nothing.  He pitched in New yorks launching pad, where everything now goes out for homeruns and he pitched well there.  Before people make assumptions based on speculation only, look at all the facts, not just the ones you like and ignore the rest.

With Halladay, the Jays want three guys that are major question marks in Philly.  Drabek, ( tommy john surgery already) Happ, who hasn't pitched a full season in the majors so the jury is still out on him.  Brown, unproven in the minors.  The three would go for a proven all star, hall of fame pitcher in Halladay and the trade is a no brainer.  Look at A-rod, he blows away the league during the year and crashes come playoff time.  That is when he is needed the most.  Will Happ or Drabek win a game 1-0 in a make or break game in the next ten years, maybe, maybe not.  Halladay pitches his best when the game is on the line, even if he's struggling, he is still better than 99 percent of the pitchers in the league. 

If his name was Dave Stewart, Jack Morris, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, etc, would the fans still say don't trade anything of value to obtain them.  Halladay is a once-in-a-decade pitcher that dominates and is going to the hall of fame.  Would Philly trade Drabek, Happ, and Brown for Steve Carlton?  Since when is one dominant hall of fame pitcher any less valuable, when they are in their prime at 32 and they excel through their whole career.  Don't forget Toronto got Roger Clemens, when the fans in Boston said he was finished and should be replaced.  In Toronto, all he did was lead the league in strike outs, 2 twenty win seasons, and 2 Cy Young awards.  Thank God the fans don't run the teams or no one would succeed.

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Posted on: July 26, 2009 8:04 pm

Could Washburn be a backup plan for Phils?

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Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: July 26, 2009 7:27 pm

Could Washburn be a backup plan for Phils?

...its a long assume...he would all of a sudden become a successful ground ball pitcher -- bsam

I agree with you, bsam. Jarrod Washburn would not turn from flyball pitcher to groundball pitcher over night. But I like to try and remember who I'm watching when I enjoy these games...professionals! I'm a traditionalist, so I'd like to believe IF brought over to Philly, Washburn would do his best to use the pitches in his repertoire to best fit his new "home".

Oh, and about my name...yeah...I fought that battle as a kid with friends of mine (4 in all) whose names were spelled with an "i" instead of "y". Tongue out

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