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Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

Posted on: January 18, 2009 11:12 pm
Edited on: January 18, 2009 11:23 pm
 

As much as this off season has dragged and we have all debated the merits of signing one player or another, things could be much much worse in 2010. This is a rather lengthy post, but it breaks down our priority areas and the free agents that will be available in 2010 to address them. Lets start with taking a look at what's available at catcher:

Catchers
Rod Barajas (34)
Josh Bard (32)
Michael Barrett (33) - club option
Jamie Burke (38)
Ramon Castro (34)
Toby Hall (34)
Ramon Hernandez (34) - $8.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Kendall (36)
Jason LaRue (36)
Victor Martinez (31) - $7MM club option with a $250K buyout
Bengie Molina (35)
Jose Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option
Mike Redmond (39)
Brian Schneider (33)
Yorvit Torrealba (31) - $4MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Vance Wilson (37)

Once Victor Martinez has his option picked up by the Indians (almost for certain) then what exactly will be left? A 35 year old Bengie Molina? We are beyond thin in the minors at catcher and while there are a couple I like, they aren't anything all that special and still have a lot to prove.

The situation doesn't improve either when you look to change our 2nd basemen in 2010 and we would still need to find a sucker, oops I mean taker for Luis Castillo. Take alook at whats available at that position:

Second basemen
Ronnie Belliard (35)
Chris Burke (30)
Jamey Carroll (36)
Alex Cora (34)
Mark DeRosa (35)
David Eckstein (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
Akinori Iwamura (31) - $4.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Adam Kennedy (34)
Felipe Lopez (30)
Mark Loretta (38)
Pablo Ozuna (35)
Placido Polanco (34)
Brian Roberts (32)
Freddy Sanchez (32) - $8MM club option with a $600K buyout

Brian Roberts is it and I would be very suprised if the Orioles let him go. He will more than likely get a new contract before the season ends.. I would have liked to have had taken a shot at Felipe Lopez this season but instead, the Diamondbacks got him for 1 year at $3.5 million. Depending upon the year he has out there, he might be an option next off-season but he would have been a cheaper option had we signed him this season with an option year.

Now onto LF. Here we actually come away with a few halfway decent options but I dont know if it will matter. Maybe our Mets will be ready to feature Fernando Martinez by then but alot of that will depend on his play this season. Here is what we are looking at for LF:

Left fielders
Marlon Anderson (36)
Jason Bay (31)
Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Johnny Damon (36)
David Dellucci (36)
Matt Holliday (30)
Gabe Kapler (34)
Greg Norton (37)
Wily Mo Pena (28)
Dave Roberts (38)
Fernando Tatis (35)

Crawford will definately have his option picked up by the Rays and it wouldnt suprise me to see the A's try and sign Holliday to contract. If our Martinez isn't ready by then and Omar winds up going out to the free agent market, we could possibly be looking at Jason Bay? Another possibility could be right fielder Xavier Nady but it goes downhill from there.

This is going to be an interesting season because what becomes available next year and who we have with expiring contracts (Carlos Delgado) means we could be in for some rather ugly changes next winter. Along with us hoping Martinez is ready for left field by next year, we will be hoping that either Murphy, Evans, or Davis, are ready to man 1st base by next season. Here is whats available for 1st base next off season once Delgado is gone:

First basemen
Russell Branyan (34)
Frank Catalanotto (36) - $5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Tony Clark (38)
Carlos Delgado (38)
Ross Gload (34) - $2.6MM club option
Nick Johnson (31)
Adam LaRoche (30)
Chad Tracy (30)
Dmitri Young (36)  -$6MM option vests with 500 PAs in '09

The situation looks a little better with starting pitching but alot of these guys will have their options picked up. Diamondbacks and Webb, Lee and the Indians, and Beckett with the Red Sox for sure. If we resign Perez and either Bobby Parnell or Jonathon Niese doesnt step up, we will be in the market for a SP that includes possibly John Lackey and Rich Harden just to name a couple. In any case, here is what is available at SP:

Starting pitchers
Brandon Backe (32)
Danys Baez (32)
Miguel Batista (39)
Josh Beckett (30) - $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Erik Bedard (31)
Daniel Cabrera (29)
Chris Capuano (31)
Bartolo Colon (37)
Jose Contreras (38)
Doug Davis (34)
Justin Duchscherer (32)
Adam Eaton (32) - $9MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Shawn Estes (37)
Mike Hampton (37)
Rich Harden (28)
Mark Hendrickson (36)
Tim Hudson (34) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Johnson (36)
Randy Johnson (46)
John Lackey (31)
Cliff Lee (31) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Marquis (31)
Kevin Millwood (35) - Rangers can decline $12MM salary for '10 unless he reaches 180 innings in '09
Brian Moehler (38) - mutual option
Brett Myers (29)
Vicente Padilla (32) - $12MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout
Chan Ho Park (37)
Carl Pavano (34)
Brad Penny (32)
Joel Pineiro (31)
Mark Prior (28)
Horacio Ramirez (30)
Tim Redding (32)
Jason Schmidt (37)
John Smoltz (43)
Tim Wakefield (43) - perpetual $4MM club option
Jarrod Washburn (35)
Brandon Webb (31) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Todd Wellemeyer (31)

Once you take all this info in, it is easy to see that with as uninspiring as alot might think this offseason has been, at least we did bring in K-Rod and J.J. Putz. Next year could be dragged out even longer with our team having even bigger holes to fill. The platoon in LF between Tatis and Murphy will be 1 year older and possibly Tatis leaving while us needing either Murphy or Evans or possibly Ike Davis to slide in at 1st base. The 2nd base situation will still be the Luis castillo debacle. Our catching will be another year older with Schneider being a free agent and us possibly needing another SP along with having to decide what to do about Putz's $8.5 million dollar option. It is easy to see that trading during the season will become alot more important this year and that things could actually get pretty ugly next offseason. 

Thanks to MLBTradeRumors.com for making this information available in one easy spot.

Comments

Since: Aug 11, 2006
Posted on: February 1, 2009 1:06 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

First you have to look at who is a FA after the 2009 season.

  1. Castro
  2. Schneider
  3. Delgado
  4. Wagner
  5. M. Anderson
  6. Schoeneweis
  7. Redding

So the Mets will need a catcher, maybe a firstbaseman, and SP

  • C- Ramon Hernandez or trade
  • 1B - Murphy or trade for Fielder
  • 2B - Castillo - He'll rebound enough to keep for 2010
  • 3B - Wright
  • SS - Reyes
  • RF - Church
  • CF - Beltran
  • LF - F- Martinez
  • SP1 - Santana
  • SP2 - Pelfrey
  • SP3 - Perez
  • SP4 - Maine
  • SP5 - Niese



Since: May 27, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2009 5:51 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

JJ,

I think you did an excellent job in creating this little appetizer for next season. The Mets, like many clubs, will have serious holes to fill in 2010. I would say that of the oldies (Delgado,  etc.) and youngsters (murphy etc.) at least 2 will step this year and have good production. If it's the youngs guys, then hopefully it carries over to next year. On the pitching front, I hope they sign both Ollie and Sheets for this year. All the more for Omar to work with. It's gonna be a great year. 




Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2009 10:03 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

OK now for you rad. First off, I am in no way shape or form panicking. There is no stress in this for me at all. if there was, I wouldnt even be a fan anymore I have enough stress being a nurse). I put this thread together as nothing more than some food for thought. I think you we're being a little too critical of some of my thoughts without taking into consideration that they are just food for thought. this was nothing more than a glimpse into what could be the offseason next year.

I am with you though in that we should sell high on Fernando Martinez (Matt Holiday would be nice) and I am sure that Daniel Murphy will fit in some place. The rotation for 2010 depends on the progression of Bobby Parnell and Jonathon Niese and whether or not we sign a pitcher right now to a multiple year deal (who knows what could happen at this point? One day we are signing Ollie for a few years and the next day we hear about possible one year deal for Ben Sheets with an option).

As for Carlos Delgado? For now, I am just hoping we get 1 more good year out of him but it will be an area of concern for next offseason. 30+ HR and 100+ RBI dont grow on trees and as I showed, replacing that through free agency just doesnt appear to be an option for 2010. We cant neccessarily count on one of our young possibilites replacing that kind of production.

The whole point of my thread was just to point out that things that happen now will definately affect our offseason next year. Some of the areas of concern we have right now are pretty much going to remain concerns the entire year and throughout our offseason next year. Was just throwing up what will be available next season to point out that Omar is probably going to have to be alot more active on the trade front this season if we want to think about the teams future. After looking at what is available, it only makes sense to think on these terms. Again, its just food for thought. Thats all. No need for me to 'stop stressing' because I havent even begun to stress.  

 




Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2009 9:46 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

Thanks for the reply steelhead. Here are some responses to your post:

1) Trading Fernando Martinez from our Mets to the A's for Matt Holiday would be awesome and i whole heartedly hope that it happens.

2) One can only hope he rebounds. At this point, we know we are stuck with him so the best we can do is support him and hopes those knees are in better shape. Would have been really nice had Daniel Murphy gotten more time this winter at 2nd base but maybe it is something they can work on in the spring.

3) Catcher is just going to be a murky mess after this season (and isnt all that appealing this season) but maybe Omar can pull off a deal for something better. We'll just have to wait and see on this front.

4) On the pitcher front, someone we bring in now could just be an answer for the future but we will have to see how that plays out. In any case, there will be some options available next season but we will probably have the same problem as this year (teams with cash, Red Sox, Yankees, will be in the market).

5) As I said in my post, I think we're gonna have to hope one of our own steps up because if Carlos Delgado isnt a memeber of our club after this season, there just isnt anything even halfway decent worth persuing.




Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2009 5:04 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

Wow. Great breakdown. Kudos to you for finding the info

That looks like a bad off season. Hopefully David Murphy and Martinez step up and we can fit them in somewhere to avoid overspending on aged players, or has beens.  Like was said above maybe Castro can become an everyday guy and we get a backup. I like him.  Some of those pitchers and 1B are horrid. Lets hope we can get Carlos Delgado on a 1yr deal, and he stays consistent.



Since: Apr 18, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2009 12:42 pm
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

you are panicking... there are plenty of options... and i think the mets will be fine this season, next season, and for the next 5 years....

you are saying there are no good options at catcher... you are right victor martinez will probly be resigned... but even he is a question mark...

but how many teams HAVE a good catcher? not many...

unless omar makes a trade, shneider will probly  be resigned.... i can live with that

secondbase can do a few things here...

alot of this depends on what we do with murphy...

you can get a guy like brian roberts although he will be resigned, a freddy sanchez maybe... or make a trade, or let one of the young kids play there...

in leftfield there are plenty of options... but they wont be going for a top guy here unless they trade f-mart... i hope they can sell high on fmart...

first base will not be delgado... it will probly be murphy... or another young kid...

 

the rotation will be fine next year...

we will have

johan

pelfrey

perez

maine

niese... and i doubt we will be getting a free agent starter next year unless omar trades one of these guys or they get injured... both scenarios are unlikely...

so please stop stressing....




Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2009 1:21 am
 

Mets offseason could be pretty ugly in 2010

JJ just a couple observations/predictions/hunches

1) Fernando Martinez will get  his highly hyped underachieving self dealt this yr before the trading deadline for Matt Holliday from the A's.   I think the chances of something similar happening increase damatically if the A's flounder through the spring.  Billy Beane will be looking to max out the holliday rental,and i do think its a rental unless they somehow ride his bat into the playoffs.  i think MH's #s will decrease dramatically from the lack of 82 games at Coors Field.  In my gut i feel that Holiday one way or another is who the mets will have in LF in 2010.

2)  2B issues.  I think Castillo has one year, maybe half a year to redeem himself.  I dont think a bounceback to .280/.350 OBP isnt out of the realm of possibility.  If he can get himself to that point by  july i can see him getting shipped out.  Hello Daniel Murphy!  this kid has a a huge career in front of him.  if Castillo continues to flounder i'll look for the mets to pull an andruw jones with him at the end of 09.

3) catchers.  yeah not a great picture.  i'd keep castro and get a serviceable backup like B Molina.  ra real upgrade might have to come via trade or wait for another yr.

4) pitchers.  oh man im still worried about this yr.  next yrs needs may be just as stressful to fill, but for now 2009 is all i can get my mind around. alot of those names on your list have one yr deals this yr and will have a lot to prove for next yrs signing period....so maybe the picture will appear brighter by then.

5) 1B depending on delgado's yr, i'd be inclined to bring him back IF he doesnt have a a significant dropoff and would take a short term deal.  otherwise is it Evans?  more likely that an upgrade here could come via trade.

 

nice analysis and i cant believe you had the energy remaining from this yr's grueling hotsove period to consider the next one!  haha

 



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